they don't have florida texas new mexico to pad their statistics. they were showing that the engineering is there. >> germany raises a number of questions, and deutsche bank did a number of questions there was a greenpeace making the argument, it was deutsche bank saying there was a paradigm here. it begs this question. 2012 germany will reach their kyoto targets. the united states has pulled away. what other country has the envelope open this year will reach their course, and what was the economic lesson learned in terms of their success or failure as it relates to dramatically changing the way they produce-- >> look at germany and the scandinavian country which are the own people who have done like they're supposed to, their economies are doing pretty well, thank you. there are other countries who have abandoned completely their equipment, canada, they'll make a lot of money for the koch brothers pumping tar sand, so we can't help with the world problem, sorry. that's running into stiff resistence among canadians. there's resistence building up ar